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Readers Continue to Respond to Taubes Interview (6 of 6)

[Editor’s Note: We continue to receive letters about our interview with Gary Taubes and some of our readers have expressed the hope that we continue publishing them to maintain the ongoing discussion. Here are three additional letters.]

Taubes’ Views Getting Too Much Attention

Dear Editor,

I had a fair amount of ambivalence about the interview with Gary Taubes published in the June issue. One reaction is that we are giving far too much attention to this individual. You may have already seen the response that several others and I published in Science, which indicated that his comments from our interviews were very much taken out of context and used to paint a picture that was highly unbalanced. I think your interviewer put it right: he was predetermined to construct a cathedral, finding bits and pieces of interviews to make his point.

I think every serious person in the field of epidemiology realizes that every study is imperfect and that we always need to try to improve our methods. However, this can probably be said about virtually every area of science. Some of the problems he mentioned are probably even greater in other spheres, particularly in laboratory sciences. For example, the FASEB Journal actually says in their instructions to authors that the publication of negative studies is strongly discouraged. Probably as a result of this mentality we are seeing a whole rash of small studies relating molecular markers to disease—published in journals like Nature and Science—that are really rubbish, and it will take a long time for sound epidemiologic studies to sort them out.

Taubes makes the claim that 90 percent of papers in physics journals are wrong and that epidemiology journals are actually worse, without any supporting evidence. I strongly doubt that this is correct. In the end, his main argument seems to be that the main problem with epidemiology is that its results are published in the general media. This is really a very different issue than bad science. I think real problems do exist; definitely there are many things in this interface that could be improved, but part of the issue is that the public wants to be part of the process, just as they want to know more than just the verdict of the O. J. Simpson trial or the last game of the World Series.

That is the negative side of the interview; on the plus side, I think your interviewer asked the right questions and he exposed many of the weaknesses of Taubes’ argument. Overall though, I am not sure this was worth the trouble or the pages.

Walter C. Willet, MD, DrPH

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Journalists Often Act as Brokers in Epidemiologists’ “Sale” of Research Results

Dear Editor,

Gary Taubes’ contention, that epidemiologists need to be extremely critical of their own “findings” is unarguable. All good journalists understand that there is much room for confounding and bias in the interpretation of epidemiologic studies, and that some epidemiologists will dredge data to serve a pre-ordained mission. There is no question that nutritional epidemiology, for example, is rife with this problem. It is also the case that epidemiologists seem particularly prone to stretch the implications of their findings when speaking with the press. It is not uncommon for an epidemiologist to overstate his case in an interview, only to complain of being “misquoted” in the next day’s paper. Of course, that doesn’t keep him or her from flying to New York to appear on Nightline that night...

Where Taubes was perhaps a bit simplistic was in his implication that this problem is peculiar to epidemiology. I have had atmospheric chemists, physicians, paleobiologists, and yes, even physicists, tell me things in interviews that they would never try to put past their peers. As one neuroscientist told me nearly ten years ago: “a quote in the New York Times is worth any number of professional papers.” It seems that more and more scientists agree, and are leaping to press conferences rather than back to the drawing board where they belong. I am almost certain that funding cuts have something to do with this, as does the increasing influence on science of corporate sponsors. In a climate of intense competition for patents, products, and research funds, scientists are finding themselves in the awkward position of having to “sell” their results, and unfortunately, too many science writers are willing brokers in the sale.

As a teacher of science journalism, I warn my students of this problem, of scientists putting ideology or dogma or ego ahead of truth. These scientists are the minority, to be sure, probably the vast minority. But they gather far more than their fair share of front page real estate and, as a consequence, of funding. As Taubes suggests, epidemiologists and all scientists should attempt to discourage this practice, by rewarding and publishing the work of scientists who perform good experiments and come up with negative results. Until this is the case, epidemiology as well as other fields in science, will be plagued and even dominated by those who claim that the naked emperor is clothed.

Ellen Ruppel Shell

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Epidemiology: Science of the People, For the People

Dear Editor,

I have been reading the debate between Gary Taubes and the esteemed professionals of the epidemiological discipline, and I am finding myself, as a young epidemiologist, in dismay over the content of the exchange. I recently saw a movie which added to my thinking about hard science and soft science: Get Shorty. Here’s a brief discussion between two of the characters:

“I just read that most people die in bed, so I think I have the answer.”

“What?”

“I’ll just sleep in my recliner!”

Of course, epidemiologists realize that issues of causation play a role here, but “hard scientists” may just see two not-so-scientifically-inclined characters displaying evidence of bad science, instigated by the “soft science” of epidemiology.

I feel no insecurities about my discipline, even after seeing the movie Get Shorty. Epidemiologists hold a unique, invaluable and necessary position in the world of science. It is our responsibility to relate science to the human experience. As epidemiologists we are supposed to both interpret the human experience and present those findings not only to the scientific community, but to the many communities of people we are hoping to assist through an understanding of how they relate to their environment, each other, and to those agencies or governments which have an effect upon their lives. Therefore, we must understand how the general public understands and relates to science and scientific findings, because our work is directly related to improving the health and well-being of the general public.

Epidemiologists are creating a new path for science to follow which does not disregard the application of its findings to the general population. As epidemiologists explore how to improve the health and well-being of individuals, we will contribute to a better science that does not bury itself underground smashing invisible pieces of air, hoping that some day such research might mean something. Instead, epidemiologists will illuminate the scientific community as to how science can improve the health and well-being of people and how science can be guided by the needs of the people.

Kenneth Legins, MPH

Published October 1996  v

 

 
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