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The Opportunities And Challenges Of Public  Communication During The COVID-19 Pandemic

A Conversation With Vanderbilt University’s William Schaffner---A “Go To” Communicator Par Excellence

During the COVID pandemic, Dr Anthony Fauci from the National Institutes of Health is undoubtedly the most frequently appearing expert on TV and other media. Another much sought after spokesperson is Vanderbilt University’s William Schaffner, an infectious disease and epidemiology expert who served as an Epidemic Intelligence Service officer at CDC and is currently Professor of Preventive Medicine in the Department of Health Policy as well as Professor of Medicine in the Division of Infectious Diseases at the Vanderbilt University School of Medicine.

Bill Schaffner served on the first advisory board for The Epidemiology Monitor and has been a longtime supporter of the newsletter since it first appeared 40 years ago.

We wondered how Bill’s science communication tasks and challenges have changed during the COVID pandemic compared to communication challenges associated with past public health problems and what insights he could share with the epidemiology community. He did not hesitate in accepting our invitation, and below are his candid remarks about his approach to science, infectious disease, epidemiology and public health communication with the public.

Epi Monitor: How did you come to play such an important and prominent role as the “go to person” for the NY Times and other publications and multiple media outlets on such a wide variety of science related topics?

Schaffner: Well, going way back to my youth, it's probably a theatrical production that I could point to. When I was in college I was also involved in theater. But then of course I put that aside when I went to medical school. But I was always attracted to this form of communication.

When I joined the Epidemic Intelligence Service at CDC I was assigned to the state health department in Rhode Island, and while I was there the state epidemiologist left to take another position. I became the “point man” for local reporters, and I answered media questions about influenza, salmonella and other topics. I came to see answering questions from media as a teaching opportunity just as working at the bedside or in the laboratory or giving a seminar was a teaching opportunity. Each one of those venues has distinctive characteristics and opportunities for teaching. Whether we are physicians or PHD’s, we are referred to as “doctor”. This word derives from the Latin docere which means to teach. 

I do think my predilection for performance and working in the college drama group and now resurrecting some of that fun by working with journalists helps explain how I ended up doing so much media work or what I call “performance teaching”.

Epi Monitor: Well that is a fascinating evolution for sure. It confirms the maxim that there’s often more to the story than meets the eye. There are often roots to behaviors that go way back to past interests and activities.

Given your status and experience in doing this media work you undoubtedly have some tips gathered over the years from what you’ve really learned about doing this kind of “performance teaching”.

Schaffner: I know in later years after I started that organizations have introduced media training for their professional staff or faculty and I've had just a touch of it here and there. Some very simple lessons --- one of them is of course you can find out what the interest of the journalist is, and what's the story all about. You may have the opportunity to work with your own public relations office since those folks are very helpful to you. And whatever the subject is, take a deep breath, sit down for a moment, and think of what your SOCO is, i.e., your single overriding communications objective. Focus on just two or three..

And then as you do this interview, no matter what question you’re asked, you can always bridge to your SOCO. You can say “what I would like to emphasize” and then keep going back to your SOCO.  Of course it’s very important to keep everything that you say based on the best and latest public health science.

The other lesson is just keep it simple; don’t get complicated. Always figure out what does this mean to the average person. You can pitch your messages so that they are understood by your proverbial grandmother or relative who has a high school education. That is the level at which you want to pitch your messages.

This may not be for everyone, but I think a lot of people could become effective communicators when they find themselves in a position in academia or in public health communicating with a larger audience.

EpiMonitor: What do you think are some of the personality traits that make some people more effective at this?  I mean you've alluded to the fact that for you it's kind of fun just like it was fun to participate in theater.  I think many people would look at it as the opposite of fun. But again what more would you say about personality traits?

Schaffner: I don't have any hidden agendas and I try to be objective. We public health professionals are still looked to with a certain respect, and I think we can take advantage of that as we communicate. I think of myself as an ambassador representing the best public health practice, and explaining infectious disease issues to the general public.

Part of my concept is realizing that journalists are in the business of communicating and that they need the story. And if we have important information, we need to communicate that information. We need them because they are our means of communicating with the general public. We need to be able to get on the TV news and have access to print media in order to communicate in rapid fashion to the general public.

So I have always seen journalists as partners, not adversaries and I try to convey that when I'm communicating with the journalists. You often have an opportunity to chat before you start the interviews and I try to establish a personal relationship with the journalist over t